tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985623786044384912.post6343096529248541333..comments2024-02-16T08:40:54.943-06:00Comments on Mexico Bob: San Rafael de Cerro GordoBob Mrotekhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15016079751197723749noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985623786044384912.post-51136190242697328962009-09-10T20:37:03.790-05:002009-09-10T20:37:03.790-05:00Hello Bob!
¿Do you belive in coincidences? Well, ...Hello Bob!<br /><br />¿Do you belive in coincidences? Well, yesterday, following the list for reading the books I brought from el Bajío I start something I would say a BLOG FROM 1864, one of the Carlota's companions,condesa Paula Kolonitz, wrote her trip to Mexico and there she mentioned Irapuato and Maximiliano's sickness. ¿Remember I told you about a book store in Celaya? -Manuel Doblado 106-A- near Templo del Carmen, they still have. "Un viaje a México en 1864". Fondo de Cultura Económica, Lecturas Mexicanas No. 41<br /><br />Saludos!El Bablehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04996435081443779006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985623786044384912.post-19229405327500699012009-09-07T15:02:26.748-05:002009-09-07T15:02:26.748-05:00I ipresume the cantera might be from the quarries ...I ipresume the cantera might be from the quarries near Queretaro or in the State of Hidalgo. It is interesting how different regions of Mexico favor different colors of cantera. Don't you think?<br /><br />THAT is a big canal!<br /><br />I love the history too........fascinating.<br /><br />someone said to me the other day, "I hate the churches and all the saint days and those things". I was so shocked. I said,"Well, then you are negating the history of Mexico and the people"<br />In my humble opinion, if the people are proud of the churches and the practice of honoring the saints, who are we to question or think it is irrelevant. And to be angry at the Spaniards and the Catholic Church for the past? Your thoughts........Babshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609157345912932083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985623786044384912.post-1976340757324010492009-09-07T14:24:05.864-05:002009-09-07T14:24:05.864-05:00You can count me as really enjoying your blog post...You can count me as really enjoying your blog posts. I always leave your site having learned something new. That is priceless to me.<br /><br />Love pictures of old structures and buildings with rich history. Thank you for sharing!YayaOrchidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12903215880257353340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985623786044384912.post-25088124873073518862009-09-07T08:40:57.352-05:002009-09-07T08:40:57.352-05:00Benja,
¡Muchísimas Gracias! You are the best! The...Benja,<br /><br />¡Muchísimas Gracias! You are the best! The information about Maximilian & Carlota is fantastic! Now I know that I am on the trail of a very interesting story :)<br /><br />Gloria, Steve, and Norm...thank you for the kind words, and Steve...keep after it!<br /><br />Anonymous,<br />Я не знаю, что вы пытаетесь сказать. Можете ли вы напишите более четко на английском языке. Спасибо.Bob Mrotekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15016079751197723749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985623786044384912.post-33524120129846579142009-09-07T08:13:40.303-05:002009-09-07T08:13:40.303-05:00I'm with Cotton, history is interesting in its...I'm with Cotton, history is interesting in its own right. The stuff you dig up and post becomes part of the public domain through google's search engine. You are putting prints in the sand for the next person who comes along. And I thank you.normhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04651902762232427335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985623786044384912.post-23771537973467861302009-09-06T22:38:53.620-05:002009-09-06T22:38:53.620-05:00Bob, put me down as one who cares about the histor...Bob, put me down as one who cares about the history of ANYTHING you can find in Mexico. I truly enjoy your posts. So far. my research to discover the source of San Patricio's name (the village, not the saint) has run into the same problem you noted. People have "ideas," but no documentation.Steve Cottonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00468378507171761868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985623786044384912.post-30121166079928332832009-09-06T22:37:49.028-05:002009-09-06T22:37:49.028-05:00That is a beautiful beautiful church and I really ...That is a beautiful beautiful church and I really enjoyed reading about this. I'll read your new blog if I'm still around. Thanks bob for your always great learning posts.GlorV1https://www.blogger.com/profile/06789212398770555465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985623786044384912.post-43847905671687032572009-09-06T21:39:21.315-05:002009-09-06T21:39:21.315-05:00Bob, good surprise I got seeeing a post about Cerr...Bob, good surprise I got seeeing a post about Cerrogordo, many says Cerro Gordo, I rather go on the old way: Cerrogordo (fat hill). The Hacienda have a long story, the best known guesst they have was Emperor Maximiliano and Carlota in 1858 (?) during the first trip they made to me central part of Mexico it was in this time, I mean between August and September, since they want to spend the 16th September at Dolores Hidalgo. Maximilano first arrive in Celaya, then pass by in Villagran, at the time called El Zapote, then into Salamanca, they sleept couple of night at the house located in front of the old Cine Rex. Then they continue to Irapuato but he got some disee, probably yellow fever, very common on the new commers to Mexico, reember Celaya was full of water ponds at the time, and mosquito reproduce easily. Probably he gots a Montezuma revange, ¿who knows? so he have to go back, he went straigh from Irapuato to Cerrogordo, they overnight there, then continue to Dolores Hidalgo to attend the ceremony, Maximiliano was the first Emperor, lets say, the firs Presidente who attend the anniversay of beginning Independence War. You can see this in the fascinating and hard to read "Mexico a Través de los Siglos" volume IV at the very end. Hard to read means HARD, pubished in 1880. For details on dates check on El Bable (april). Also teh book publish by Editorial Porrúa, "Salamanca, recuedos de mi tierra guanajuatense" by José Rojas Garcidueñas (1984) is the only one who have information about Cerrogordo.El Bablehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04996435081443779006noreply@blogger.com